949–5

Conversation No. 949-5

Date: July 12, 1973
Time: 2:56 pm - 3:25 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Walter Scheel and Henry A. Kissinger. This recording began at an
unknown time while the conversation was in progress

US-Europe relations

-Scheel

-Conversation with Michel Jobert
-France
-Ability for initiatives
-Declaration
-Kissinger’s briefing of President
-Year of Europe
-President’s conversations with Leonid I. Brezhnev, Jobert
-Imposition

-Compared to Marshall Plan

-Joint venture

-Germany, Great Britain, France
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] Council
-Declaration
-Problem
-President’s personal relations with Europe’s leaders
-Denmark, Norway
-Year of Europe
-Germany’s position
-Compared to US
-President’s travel
-Timing
-Conference
-Publicity
-France, Germany’s role
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-Brussels

-NATO Council

-Foreign defense ministers
-European Economic Community [EEC]
-France’s participation
-Summit
-Paris
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] participation
-All-European summit
-President’s conversation with Brezhnev
-Joint communique
-Camp David
-Phases
-Head of State compared to ministerial level
-Summit
-USSR participation

-Concessions

-Timing

-Intergovernmental communication
-Formal communication
-State Department cables
-Impact on France
-USSR’s positioning
-William P. Rogers [?]

-Kissinger

-Jobert

-Georges J. R. Pompidou
-Sir Burke Trend
-Great Britain
-Results
-God, motherhood, country pronouncements
-President’s view
-Summit
-Paper

-Distribution

-Scheel’s draft

-France, Great Britain’s knowledge

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-Significance of US-USSR relations
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Importance of international meetings
-Willy Brandt
-[James] Harold Wilson, Edward R. G. Heath
-Pompidou, Gen. Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle
-Mariano Rumor
-Heath’s concern about conference
-Letter to President

-President’s statement to NATO Council

-Josepf Luns

-President’s travels to Europe

-Compared to People’s Republic of China [PRC]

-Compared to NATO

-Brezhnev
-Atlantic compared to European cooperation
-Germany

-Public statement

-Detente

-NATO

-Scheel’s statement in Helsinki
-Impact of alliance’s strength
-US-USSR summits
-Scheel’s statement in Helsinki
-Warsaw Pact
-Declaration
-Compared to communique
-Compared to Atlantic Charter, Four
Freedoms
-Fate of Western civilization
-Scheel’s draft
-Philosophy
-Humane Society
-Pragmatism
-Theory
-Youth
-Pragmatism compared to idealism
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-USSR

-Youth

-Communism

-US compared to Germany

-Impatience
-John Dewey
-Reconstructionism [?], Pragmatism [?]
-USSR

-Role and utilization of idealism

-Youth

-Charles Malik’s views

-Lebanon [?]

-Idealistic language

-Substantive content

-Cynicism

-Press

-Camp David

-President

-Brandt, Pompidou

-Pragmatism compared to idealism

-Balance of payments, inflation

-Wheat

-USSR
-President’s view

-Philosophy

-Economic pragmatism

-Chance of US success

-Freedom and diversity
-John Foster Dulles

-Houses, automobiles, roads, air conditioning

-East Germany and West Germany

-Individual freedom

-USSR
-Foreign and domestic policies
-Impact of detente
-Social, cultural exchange
-Scheel’s speech
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(rev. October-2012)

Conversation No. 949-5 (cont’d)

-Differing political systems
-Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe [CSCE]
-Competition
-Nikita S. Kruschev’s 1959 statement
-President’s speeches
-London Guidhall speech
-1968 acceptance speech
-Idealism
-[Year of Europe]
-Great Britain, France’s support
-President’s interaction with Pompidou
-France
-Idealism
-French Revolution

-Cooperation with Germany

-Nuclear policy


Brandt

-President’s well wishes


Year of Europe

-Declaration

-Metaphor


Scheel and Kissinger left at 3:25 pm.